Sunday, January 27, 2008

Markets trading range UP,DOWN or FLAT ????

Markets are trying to figure out the uncertainty which has been created by sub-prime mess....

Markets till this day since august has NOT figured out what is the "ultimate cost of this mess"

Markets are also trying to figure out...what will be the worldwide impact of the credit/housing mess........

Worldwide economies will be impacted due to US slowdown.......the debate & uncertainty of "how much" is what troubling markets worldwide......

Markets "hates uncertainty"......and there is "plenty of uncertainty to go around"

The big question is :

-Is US going to go into recession......if the answer is yes then the next question is for how long....

-Then the related issue is IF US goes into recession...then how much it will impact China,India,Brazil,Russia & Europe........

So far......Markets is saying that US will go into recession & there will be an impact on rest of the world economies.......

So let us deal with this conclusion........

S&P 500 went DOWN to 1270...with this FEAR.......

What happens to S&P 500 if the fear of recession becomes REALITY......

S&P 500 can easily go to 1100.......a further drop of 13.3% from recent LOW ????

So...now deal with the issue of HOW we can avoid "recession"

Recession can be avoided if fed cuts another 50 basis on wed.....plus we approve economic stimulus package & check is IN the mail by May.........

So....if the check is in the mail in May...then the economic impact will be in June......

All the economic reports which covers the period of June will report in July that economy is improving........

Once we report improvement in July...then confidence in US economy & its impact worldwide will be evident.......

Markets will then start reflecting the increased confidence in economy worldwide from Aug onwards........

So my thesis clearly takes us to july period as the "first evidence of improving economy"

So...what does the markets DO from Jan 28th to July 31st ....a long SIX months lag time?????

This is a several trillions $ question.........?????

This is how I see IT...... a guesswork only...I hope !!!!

S&P 500 will be range bound...with a DOWNSIDE potential to 1200 & UPSIDE to 1450 area ????

S&P 500 closed friday @ 1330.61...........

So we have a trading range of 250 S&P 500 points area......

Based on friday close.....we have an upside target of another possible 119 points on S&P 500......

In other words Dow upside target is somewhere 13,300 area......

So...we are dealing with a potential Upside market gain of another 9% area from here.......

Once we hit S&P 500 to 1450 area........a MAJOR pullback will set in ??????

Why do I think that we have a potential 9% more on the UPSIDE first ?????/

Because Fed & White house will do their best to avoid recession.........

Whether that effort will give US the desired result ?????

Only TIME will tell !!!!!!

We are also entering slower economic growth time in US between now & July......

From Q3 US economy is stronger with Q4 being the strongest.......

So after initial "euphoria of fed cuts & stimulus package".........

Markets will remain range bound till july........

Range of markets will be dictated by economic reports from here till July........

So...until uncertainty remains about economy....

Markets hates uncertainty.......

So markets will remain "jittery"..until there is CLARITY about economy....

So...how one invest/trade in this type of market.......

Homework & knowing your stocks extremely well will be the deciding factor...70% FA & 30% TA plus tape monitoring will rule.......

Lot of strong stocks are on "fire sale".....so should be bought here & accumulated for both long term & short term trades........

Markets will be "extremely volatile"...so take advantage of volatility.....

Good luck on dealing with current UNCERTAIN times in the markets.......

Please understand & KNOW the downside of every stock you buy....so you have very HIGH comfort level with your exposure.......

BLOG does NOT give buy or sell.

Saleem

24 comments:

Diane Clayton LCSW said...

Hi Saleem,
I read the Peter Lynch article one of your posters left link. It was interesting which gives a different take on Solar. If oil prices continue to go down the motivation for Solar developement will be lost.

Since US entered Iraq oil prices have been gradually increasing. With U.S. looking to exit in theory oil should go down. Will Solar lose its luster?

I don't have the answer as usual more questions. What does the board think. This will effect all Solar stocks.

Since I am long LDK and I know Saleem you have two different positions in Solar have you thought about this possibility.

I have friends from Texas that have been making a fortune in Oil and now they are questioning the long term possibilities.

Diane

Stocks100 said...

Hi Diane,

Thanks for your reaction to Peter Lynch article.

I respect Peter Lynch very much...he is a great FA person based on his thesis.

Inspite of all that...I did NOT read his link...WHY.....

Because ..everybody has a right to their opinion about everything.

I have done my OWN analysis...and my conclusion is that Solar will remain in growth mode for a long long time......

Solar is NOT able to keep UP with demand worldwide...a nice problem to have.......

Oil price has nothing to do with solar....

Solar competes with natural gas & electricity cost to business & consumer.....for heat & light....

I personally do NOT see the price of oil coming down either...thanks to SLUMPING US$...oil is priced in US$......

Oil will remain high..to offset US$ depreciation......

Did you notice that OIL is above $90 today while we are in FEAR of recesion????

By the way I have 3 solar stocks AKNS,CSIQ & LDK.....

Conviction to your OWN thesis is very important to keeping any stock......as there is too much NOISE always against any sector....

Think AAPL NOW...it is being trashed & I am getting more CONFIDENT.....

Something MUST be wrong with me to go against Peter Lynch or AAPL naysayers !!!

Saleem

Diane Clayton LCSW said...

Thanks Saleem,

You do have strong convictions. I wanted to add more LDK. I respect Lynch he did not manage a hedge fund.

There is so much noise out there I am trying to turn down the volume. You have alot more experience than I do. I respect your opinion because you have spoken the truth and at times taken some challenges.

I have concern about the Dow going to 11000 and have kept 50% in cash.

Making the transition from working to retirement has made me more emotion bound on my decisions than normal.

Thanks for your take.

diane

Stocks100 said...

Hi Diane,

We all are different human being & different type of risk taker.....

It IS important that you feel comfortable with your changing circumstance.....

Who said....we have to be 100% in stocks ever.....unless you are comfortable in doing so.....

50% cah is OK...as long you have put it to work also.....like dividend paying mutual fund...or money market funds which pays you better than leaving in a bank account.

Do NOT worry too much about the direction of the market...as long as you are comfortable with your exposure.....

Nobody can predict the market...I control my exposure UP & DOWN based on my own CONVICTION...currently it is racing towards HIGH.....which CAN change with market levels in a hurry.....

Saleem

minaccess said...

Hi Saleem. You know what I have been thinking and spending my investing time during this correction. I am on the lookout for the next big winners. Please spend some of your time on this as well. With our collective experience and market savvy we could find some big winners that are currently off the radar screen. Based on history, they are either new issues or stocks basing for an extended period of time looking to break out (i.e. sleeping snakes on the chart). Some have crossed my screen that MAY be future winners. Some are SDTH, HIMX and ISYS. I have not heard anyone on cnbc, fox etc. mention these stocks, all have great fundies. SDTH is a newer issue and HIMX and ISYS have been basing for an extended period. Also, to get on IBD100 list, the stock price has to be over 15. Tw of the above are under $15, but with fundies goode enough to make the list. Usually, when a stock first makes the list, it appreciates significantly as it gathers a new following. Keep a look out for others. Peace.

Stocks100 said...

Hi Minaccess,

Thanks for your pursuit of next big winner & prompting all of us to new names.

SDTH ...I have followed and actually bought @ $6 and then sold soon after.....

SDTH is a Chinese coal based chemical company which has some fertilizer component.....

This is a good company based on EPS trend...

Its PE is 17.6 based on 12/08.....

Others I have NOT followed...but will look into it......

Saleem

stktrader said...

According to a Time Magazine article in the edition I got yesterday, China and India accounted for 1.6 billion in consumer spending in 2007. American consumers spent 9.5 trillion in 2007. The world economies will be hit hard if they cannot sell their goods and services to the USA. The checks that will be in the mail are at best going to be in consumer hands in May but will filter out until August. That is if the IRS that is understaffed can handle that in conjunction with tax refunds at the same time. The tax refund if more substancial than the rebate check, but it does not play as well as a rebate check in an election year.

standardshigh said...

Hi Minaccess,

I too came upon HIMX yesterday. With their teaming up with 3M, it may be in a good bet. They also pay a 3.9% dividend. Stock is at $5. Their growth prospects look better with LCD development.

Standards

Doug said...

Saleem,
what do you think about CCC? It is in a good space for sure, as we all know about future water concerns across the globe. I would love your assessment of CCC. It has come along way in recent months, from under $10 to over $15 but I don't hold it against the stock. LOL... The chart looks good but Im more interested in the fundamentals and prospects for growth in the future. Thanks for any thoughts...

Stocks100 said...

Hi Doug,

CCC ....technically looks very strong.....

Market cap is extremely LOW 630.15 million....

EPS yoy is growing @ 32.2%....

PE is 37.9......

As I do NOT follow this sector...so have NO personal feel for it.....

If IH is going for it.....then you follow their target.....

Saleem

Doug said...

Thanks Saleem.

Troy House said...

Barrons bashing Chinese companies and Chinese Solars in particular... here is the excerpt.

Barron’s Roundtable members like WMI, ROH, INTC, XLNX, EUM, FXP, SCJ, FIS, HAFC, BAC, LNC, PAY, CHK, HIG, DVN, ESV, AVT, ROST, ZINC and ELRN. Shorts include: XLY, FXI and DRYS.

Buyers of Chinese IPOs beware. A research house finds many of these US-listed issuers still offer poor governance and accounting, as well as lower-quality earnings. "The results are quite striking," says Victor Germack, of RateFinancials. "And these are from the documents of record, b/c Regulation FD says they have to reveal public information through their filings. This is what investors rely on, not puff pieces from the co." The five are GA, LDK, NPD, YGE and GRO.

madmax said...

©2008 Investor's Business Daily
: Himax
Current Price: $5.07
Exchange: NMS
Industry Group: Elec-Semiconductor Mfg
Overall Rating: (86 = B+)
This Video for January 28 discusses the HIMX chart and shows the buy point

http://tinyurl.com/hzmcq

See also the newsletter on the right on that page or at

http://tinyurl.com/32wvjs
here are some interesting tibit on HIMX.

This is an interesting stock.
Comments plz, I do not follow this stock:
Madmax

Unknown said...

Hi Saleem,

The sub prime mess is not only an american problem as in Europe we haven't not seen, so far, which banks are hit and to what extent.
Last friday the rumour was spread that the Fortis bank (Belgium) will write off 1 billion, but more likely 1.5 to 2b. The share dropped 10.48% to 13.21 euro (june 2007 high 29,00 euro) in the last hour.
Dutch- belgian - french - Uk and german banks haven't come out yet with their figures.
USB was reported to write down 14.9
B!!
The "fraud" at the Société Genérale in France - 5B - plus a write off of 2B was also shocking news, but there were serious doubts, that only one young trader could be responsable.
Two weeks ago the leading European banks had a meeting in London; officially no comments, but the reaction from a dutch journalist was: I was completely flabbergasted and could not believe my ears.
So we can expect the "vaudeville" to start in february overhere.
The ECB did not cut the rate last week, probably for the reason they did not want to do it at the same time as the Fed. The 75 points and the reaction of the US gouvernment gave some relief, the next one on wednesday should also have some effect and they will wait until the european banks come out - in february and march - to give it more weight when the sh.. hits the fan overhere. What will be the effect on the US market??
At least we can expect instability and high volatility for the coming months.

On the bright side: the general feeling here is that there wil be no recession in Europe in 2008.

I hope this will give some info on the situation on the other side of the big pond.


Question,
I have Cmed, Ldk and Stp, all three still in the green. Should I hold tight or take the profit and buy back after a drop?

regard

Willem

Stocks100 said...

Hi Willem,

Thanks for your take on European view of sub-prime.......

Greed is a known commodity on both side.....they all have stretched the envelope quite a bit.....

Any negative news that is beyond the expectations will hit the market negatively......

European banks have been taking the lumps on a case by case basis...

If i were you ...will NOT sell CMED,STP or LDK......their tape is very stable NOW.....

CMED is cream of the crop.....looking very good "technically" $51 is attainable.....

There is too much negative sentiment...which is a contrary indicator...means ...we MAY be heading UP...I hope !!!

Saleem

Stocks100 said...

Hi Troy,

Thanks for posting the excerpts from Barrons......

I do NOT see a passing reference to LDK as a negative.....

LDK has gone through "ringer already..on imagined issues and has been cleared by an outside auditing committtee"

I see LDK moving UP from here..be "ready for $45 "

Chinese bashing is "nothing new...it sells Barrons newspaper & online subscription"

Conviction is the key to survive in this volatile environment.....

Not only follow what I say..but also see what I DO.....

If I ever change my mind ...I always post in my BLOG.....

Saleem

standardshigh said...

Hi Saleem,

What recession? Things are going great here in Atlanta. Busy, Busy. You pointed out GS as a problem. Yes I see it now. On Friday they announced lay offs at the right time to throw more negativity into the market. As I look back to OCT they stand out as a force in the negativity camp. Anytime there is a day without bad news, they find a way to create some. Have a great week.

Standards

Stocks100 said...

Hi Standards,

Markets have behaved already...as IF..we are already in recession...

So...IF the economic reports do NOT confirm recession......

Guess what.......

Mother of all rally...worldwide $$$

Slowdown will be... a good news for markets....

GS...is in the business of making money @ all cost....either they follow a trend..or CREATE a trend in markets.....

Saleem

Preet said...

Hi Saleem,

Thank you so much for the great information. As the financial results will be out for VMW on Monday.I guess VMW is very strong company and should declare good results. What do you say? Could you please let me know ?

Thank you so much

Preet

Stocks100 said...

Hi Preet,

VMW is a high PE stock.....

These days..it is all about guidance.....

If VMW guidance is good..then it will run UP......

Saleem

Troy House said...

VMW does not provide guidance, just like google... they did not provide 3rd qtr and I am sure they will not provide this time too...

Bruce said...

Solar Holders:

This house appears to be bullish long-term but not so short term...., which I belive matches Saleem's outlook..........
__________________________________
Calyon on Solars
Calyon reiterates their solar Buy ratings, each investment thesis remains intact. Bullish on solar and individual cos' long-term prospects. Lowering target on FSLR to $245 (from $345), SPWR to $120 (from $172) and ESLR to $16 (from $22). The lower multiples are due to investor fears of a recession weighing on multiples - the market is not paying up as much for growth now.

Stocks100 said...

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for posting Solar view by
Calyon......

FA is becoming absolutely critical.

PE is playing a decisive role on valuation in the market.....

Conviction & long term view should be the-focus.....

Saleem

madmax said...

Good Morning SALEEM

Looks like AAPL is taking a spanking today! My NYX is up Hurray

Have a great day

Madmax